Outsource Your Kid

Trying to save money on a university and still get a good education? Forget the local community college -- send your kid to school overseas.

BY CHARLES KENNY | JANUARY 30, 2012

It's that time of the year again: high-school seniors around the country are anxiously awaiting the news that will change their lives -- early admission to the university of their choice. But while junior checks his email and the school's website 15 times an hour, parents are checking their savings account statements. As the recession bites into American families' incomes and makes the job search for recent graduates that much trickier, an increasing number of people are beginning to question the cost of attending colleges and universities in the United States.

And consider that cost: Colorado College, for example, has an annual tuition of $39,900 -- and once room, board, and supplies are factored in, that rises to a whopping $52,000 for non-Colorado based students.  You have to pay top dollar for a top-ranked school, of course: Colorado College is No. 1 in the nation for being "marijuana friendly," according to test-prep agency Princeton Review.

While Colorado College's fees are at the upper end, it is hardly unique. The College Board suggests that more than two-fifths of full-time undergraduate college students attend a college that charges less than $9,000 per year for tuition and fees -- but, at the other end, more than a quarter are in schools charging $36,000 or more. Some of those students get a scholarship, many get federal aid -- but plenty don't, or don't get enough.  Across the United States, college seniors who used loans to help fund their education owed an average of $25,250 upon graduation in 2010. So, perhaps it is not surprising that a Pew Research Center study suggests that 57 percent of Americans think college is of only fair or poor value for the money. And three quarters argue that college is too expensive for most Americans to afford.

There is a simple answer to such concerns: Shop around for a better deal. If junior is willing to travel a little bit further -- to colleges overseas -- the world offers some incredible bargains for quality tertiary education, with the option of free language and culture immersion thrown in. Tuition costs for foreign students at some of the best universities in Asia, Europe, and Africa can be as low as $4,000, well below half the median cost of college in the United States.

Of course, just because a Kia is cheaper than a Lexus doesn't mean it's necessarily better value. What matters is the cost to quality equation. But before assuming that U.S. college education must be of unbeatable excellence, it is worth mulling over a 2006 assessment of adult literacy which found that fewer than a third of four-year U.S. college graduates were fully capable of tasks like comparing viewpoints in two editorials; interpreting a table about blood pressure, age, and physical activity; or computing and comparing the cost per ounce of food items.

Global university rankings, like those from Shanghai University, Britain's Times Higher Education Supplement, and Quacquarelli Symonds (QS), are hardly free of controversy. And they are rarely centered on the student experience -- instead, taking into account things like the number of Nobel prizes awarded to faculty or how many citations the average professor gets in journals that are read by a global readership of 43 (on a good day).  Nonetheless, they provide one broad measure of university quality around the globe.  And the rankings do suggest the United States remains top dog in terms of world-beating universities. Seven out of the top ten on the Times ranking are American schools, for example. All three rankings have at least two British universities among the top ten, however, and the QS ranking helpfully reports that these universities charge around $22,000 in annual tuition to foreign students -- compared to domestic fees of around $38,000 for the top U.S. schools.

That said, 99 percent of U.S. college applicants don't have a great shot at Harvard and MIT, or have little hope of spending three years shivering in the windswept fens of Cambridge or the fog-bound damp of Oxford. But the good news for prospective students and parents is that the opportunities for bargains get better as you go down the rankings: Canada's McGill University is ahead of America's Duke University, for example, and charges about half the fees. And the Shanghai top 500 includes about 37 universities from low- and middle-income economies. Institutions like the University of Sao Paulo in Brazil and Fudan University in China both rank above renowned U.S. establishments like George Washington University in Washington, D.C. or Notre Dame in Indiana. For the cost-conscious consumer of tertiary education, this high quality comes at truly bargain basement price.

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Charles Kenny is a senior fellow at the Center for Global Development, a Schwartz fellow at the New America Foundation, and author, most recently, of Getting Better: Why Global Development Is Succeeding and How We Can Improve the World Even More. "The Optimist," his column for Foreign Policy, runs weekly.

MANDREWSF

8:31 PM ET

January 30, 2012

Well, you'd have to send your kids overseas...

...because alien kids like me are taking up the spots in THIS countries' first-rate educational institutions.

 

IPO

3:37 PM ET

February 2, 2012

a bitter fact

in some fact .. oh yes.. it is indeed but leaving far away from land is bit difficult what I felt in last 4 years.. thankx
Valuation

 

DADSTER

1:43 AM ET

February 3, 2012

Outsource education in the USA

America is catching up with the rest of the world now in respect of sending students abraod for studies. Recession is doing some good after all ! Some introspections !
Another perhaps more constructive solution could be to stop making education institutions in the USA non- commercial and non profiteering except where it sells it's researched products to industry .don't " commercially sell" education to US citizens for a profit ; make tertiary education free, subsidized or pay as per income of the parents or the sponsors in the case of citizens of America . Charge at commercial rates to foreign students. Don't worry there will be takers . The higher the price ,the more would be the takers; because, right or wrong , price is subconsciously associated with quality and class. Exploit that perception .it's not just for quality education that's being paid for , it's also for the previlege of staying in a first- world country tha customers are paying. It's well known that what you sell and what the customer buys are not the same. Therefore price for what the customer buys. With the fee collected from one foreign student three or four USA citizens could be educated. Once educated, make sure that they don't drain out of the USA for which student bonds could be contracted that American citizen student after completing their university degree course remains and works in America for at least five years on penalty of having to pay back the entire cost of their education at the same rates as for a foreign student, if they go out before completing five years of work in the USA .

 

10JACOBF

11:05 PM ET

January 30, 2012

I like the idea but...

You detailed quite extensively of how isolated American higher education system is - and it does sound like a grave threat to America's future. But *your* plan is to send them overseas? Who gets to? Surely not even a fraction of them would realistically play this high-risk gamble on their futures; even if they can do it at a bargain price.

1. Can we really trust rankings alone to guarantee an education abroad is worth it?

2. How many "second-rate" children can even qualify at foreign first-rate colleges anyway?

3. Will foreign degrees be recognized here in America for domestic jobs?

I know a friend of mine (a Romanian student) that had to retake her biology classes because none of them counted here. What's worse is that she went to medical school in her country for two years yet none of that seems to matter on American soil.

Now I'm not saying that it's a foolhardy idea - I like it on paper. But unless Americans are also going to find work abroad, I find it unlikely that foreign universities (Europe aside) would have recognizable credentials for work or research in America.

4. Isn't this whole idea missing the big picture?

If American education is truly on the road to ruin then shouldn't that be addressed instead of running away from it? Not all of us could ever go abroad this way, I say that if we can solve America's problems then perhaps the whole world would be better off.

 

WERDERJIM

8:26 AM ET

January 31, 2012

I am doing my masters now in

I am doing my masters now in Germany for engineering, and ya your third point is worrying (I have an undergrad from a good US university as a fall back but still).

On the plus side, school is completely free and I get to live here for at least a couple years. We will see what happens once its all finished up.

 

RICH2ED

9:07 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Evaluations of Foreign Transcripts

There are a number of what are called "Translation" agencies that will perform equivalency evaluations of coursework completed outside the US. "Translation" does not mean translating text from a foreign language to English. Rather, it is an interpretation of how coursework earned outside the US translates into comparable US earned coursework.

In many instances, earned degrees, undergraduate and graduate, from institutions outside the US are recognized as equivalent degrees of their US counterparts. Exceptions occur when a foreign institution lacks equivalent accreditation credentialing or for which there is no comparable US equivalent degree or course.

Translations are available for employment purposes or for the transfer of credit to US institutions. Fees for translations can vary, as can the time for the translation to be completed. Official transcripts must be sent from the originating foreign institution directly to the translation agency.

A number of US post-secondary schools are equipped to perform such translations as well.

 

POTAX

9:13 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Point 2 is the kicker

I will actually put it another way - how many first rate american children can even qualify at foreign first-rate colleges. Other than say, in sparsely populated canada or australia, I can't see too many first rate american children making it into first rate colleges in India, China or Brazil. The percentiles involved are high. For example, being at the 99.5th percentile does not get you into an IIT in India, and I am sure, Shanghai University is equally competitive

 

NOA18

11:44 PM ET

January 31, 2012

German Master

Are you nuts? You are getting your engineer diploma from a german school and doubt your international recognition??? The whole world tries to mimic that eduction. I've never met an american employer that wouldn't choose the german engineer over every american schooled applicant.

 

TZTHIB

1:52 AM ET

February 1, 2012

4th rate students qualify

I am currently studying at one of the "big three" universities in Thailand, and not only are many of my fellow Americans 2nd rate students but a sizable chunk of them are 3rd rate or worse. I know of several people who seem to be barely literate yet go to the highest rated school in Thailand. hmm... now that I think of it, I wonder how far down from 1st rate I fall.

What is a second rate child anyway?

In my experience here in Asia, I have found that it is incredibly easy for Americans to get accepted into schools abroad. I do wonder, however, if any American firms will take a degree from the school that I attend seriously.

 

NELSONROSE

2:08 AM ET

January 31, 2012

Education as a business

Now a day’s education is a big industry we can see that the colleges are only increasing their fee structure and study level is going down. We should take interest in Government University and colleges. Government universities are providing us the best study material and teachers at low fee structure also government provide many facilities to the students.

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RMDUENAS

8:46 AM ET

January 31, 2012

"recognizable credentials for work or research in America?

How do you think people in the rest of the world work or do research?
This is precisely the problem with the US: to think that ONLY their schools are good, only their medicines are goo, only their democracy is good, and a long etc.

The list of foreign universities with enormous reputation around the world is very long. Just think about many Canadian universities and a lot of European ones.

People from the rest of the world have know this method (sending kids to study abroad, and NOT always to the US) for a long time. The US seems to be the last in catching in the trend.

Since there is no way to know when the problem of education in the US will be solved, this is a very practical solution for those who have the means... and are not afraid of the quality of the education the rest of the world has to offer.

 

HAGGUS1989

9:13 AM ET

January 31, 2012

some thoughts

Studying abroad is not a bad idea, although, if you are studying in a challenging field, adding a foreign language on top of it may make it really difficult.

Still, there are a lot of bargain universities in the US. In the end, starting your studies at a community college or satellite campus may give you a better education than starting out at a big name school.

Also, don't forget the service academies. Highly selective, and you must commit to serve after, but a good education at a phenominal price.

to jacobf, med school has its own set of problems with the AMA effectively creating a monopoly on doctor education.

IMHO, the US manner of fed student aid is a large cost driver. College costs goes up, so people clammor for more student aid. More student aid is available so universities jack up prices.

 

MCGANNONMA

9:42 AM ET

January 31, 2012

Sending "2nd Rate Students" Overseas is not the solution

Many students can’t even cope with going away from their hometown to school in the US and dropout rates for freshman are at an all time high and you want to send them off to another country?

I think there is a much larger issue here in that there are just too many students that shouldn’t necessarily being going to a 4 year college-university right out of high school. Allot of students would be better served by attending community college first, earning an associate’s degree or going to a technical school.

Here’s the first issue, there seems to be a misconception that colleges are a job placement program and there is some sort of 1 to 1 return on investment in between the cost of one’s education and their starting salaries once they begin a career. This is simply not the case. Colleges are not jobs training programs, they are there to provide an education. The bad part is that many colleges have turned into nothing more a business turning out as many graduates as they can in fields that are not needed outside of academia, rather than an institute of higher learning and research.

There are simply too many college students that should be in either community college level programs, trade or technical schools. The Bachelor’s degree in the U.S. seems to have replaced the High School diploma as the necessary piece of paper to enter the workforce and while that might work if there were careers for all these graduates with bachelor’s degrees, what is has done is dilute the quality of the graduate pool.

Sending what you term as 2nd rate students overseas is not the answer

 

DEEF

10:01 AM ET

January 31, 2012

I would've done this in a

I would've done this in a second if I could afford it. This makes me feel like shit for attending a third rate university

 

HECTORGREG11

12:01 PM ET

January 31, 2012

don't feel bad

The world has gone global recently and you shouldn't feel bad...college is not all it is cracked up to be.

 

FIBROWITCH

12:00 PM ET

January 31, 2012

College students should be studying for a career not for fun

It does not matter where students attend college, be it a community college, a state school or even an on line school. If they are NOT getting the education they need to have to do the jobs we need to get done.

If a student gets into an in demand field it will not matter what kind of university they get into, they will get a job. I retired 10 years ago and I got a cold call job offer last June! I have at at least one job offer every year since I retired. For the record I went to a state university, truly a 3rd tier college. In a field that had lots of demand, and guess what, the students I walked with all had jobs before they had paper in hand.

I know several people in their late 20's who are desperate for a job in their field. Except they don't really have a field They got what I think is a degree useful only for interesting dinner conversation. It's time to stop students from getting a Liberal Arts degree and get a Useful degree.

 

LISA JANE

12:12 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Wake up....

Not trying to be freedom fighter as such, but have you ever asked your mirror how student loan debt stacks up to the recently popped housing bubble that helped drive the Great Recession?

There are things that could prevent it. For example, if federal loans become more available, more people with high educational debt will be eligible for repayment plans such as Income-Based Repayment and able to earn Public Service Loan Forgiveness.

Nothing personal here just a simple fact.

Best
Lisa Jane

 

KAPEK

3:32 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Never Assume

I was more than a little taken aback to see the Indian Institute of Technology on this list: while it may be only "a little above Notre Dame in the QS rankings" (which, incidentally, are easily the least reliable of any of the international ranking systems mentioned here; the Times terminated its relationship with QS for a reason), it nonetheless has the distinction of being the world's SINGLE most selective institution of higher education.

Think about it. IIT may not stack up against MIT, but it's the closest thing to MIT in India; combine that with 100 million striving parents who want their children to be engineers but can't afford to pay for a foreign education.

Don't assume that your status as an American automatically guarantees you a higher berth.

 

FAIRANDBALANCED

6:35 PM ET

February 1, 2012

Cheaper - yes. Easier - No.

I agree. Getting into IIT is no walk in the park. It is highly competitive and very difficult to get into unless you are phenomenally good in Math and Physics. Their exams are not modeled after SAT. You actually have to work out the problems in long-hand; taking wild guesses is not even an option (not that that works as a strategy anyway). In fact, so many aspirants take the IIT entrance exam in India that there's no feasible way their professors could go through the thousands and thousands of papers turned-in for grading. They took care of that issue with a somewhat SAT type paper of objective questions used solely as a screening device to filter off the riffraffs, followed by the actual "long" exam, both taken together (just that if you don't clear the cutoff in the screening section, they would throw away the rest of the papers you turned in. I am sure IITs don't stack up to MITs but that has more to do with resources and funding available in a developed country as opposed to state-funded education in a developing one and is not a reflection on either the students or the actual coursework.

Unless there is a quota for foreign students, most American students would find it incredibly hard to get through the selection process.

 

XTIANGODLOKI

5:02 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Go to a US school with good exchange program with foreign school

This is about as close as you can get with paying less money for a degree recognized in the US. The experience will also differentiate you from most other grads competing in the same job market, especially if you have worked abroad and in the US.

You still need to get into a top tier school on your own though.

 

BEIHAI

6:14 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Shanghai

I lived in Shanghai for 7 years, unless you are fluent in Mandarin there is no way you can study anything other than Mandarin for your college career. And in Shanghai get used to people speaking a dialect of Wu outside of class.
I very well might send my kids to Shanghai to study, but their mother is from Shanghai and we have a house there and they are studying Mandarin as children (as well as Spanish) so perhaps they can study there but I would not recommend it for most people.
Mexico is much closer and if parents have foresight they can have their children learn Spanish much easier (use SAP for little kids so they become accustomed to Spanish early on).

By the way, degrees from Chinese Universities are recognized in the states, I helped a lot of Chinese go to their masters in the states.

 

THE_OBSERVER

10:14 PM ET

January 31, 2012

Not that easy

While the fees for the said universities may be an advantage for Americans use to paying big dollars for a university education and some of those locations are tourist meccas, they are not necessarily the easiest universities to gain entry to. Many of those universities are very competative. Most of them would require the International Baccalaureate examinations for entry and Americans who are use to multiple-choice SATs would find the former a lot of work. Related to that are the fact that there are many local students competing for places at those universities. Americans are also not the only ones who may want to go overseas for university and some host countries offer scholarships to third world students, e.g. China gives scholarships to many African countries students. Taking all this into account, any alloted places for overseas students by the better universities will therefore also be heavily subscribed.

 

KORVOSCOP

5:31 PM ET

February 2, 2012

China is on top, but did you

China is on top, but did you ever visit europe, to see how many kids are outsourced every day on any job and fashion wholesaler grom there bussiness around this outsurcing?

On china most of the kids have a competition to learn to much and they crash.

 

ANGELIE

1:41 PM ET

February 3, 2012

What it comes down to is

What it comes down to is saving money and getting a good education at the sametime, which equates into a promising career. So it's a great idea to rate schools just like rated toys, where the one that is in demand, provides the most appeal and is competitively priced wins.

 

MIKELL

3:55 PM ET

February 5, 2012

Not always as good as it seems

Unfortunately, many students who come to the USA (often for the first time) to attend boarding school have been directed to a particular school by a consultant being compensated by that school. Children end up in places where they are uncomfortable and isolated, and often receive an education below the standard they expected. make your teeth white fast

 

FELINE74

7:46 AM ET

February 6, 2012

I should hope Colorado College is a high-scorer for more . . .

. . . pot use! It wasn't so long ago that it was in US News' Top 25 list of Liberal Arts colleges.