Why Would Anyone Want to Join the EU?

The European Union is flailing, feckless, and fundamentally undemocratic.

BY ALAN SKED | MARCH 14, 2012

One of the most egregious examples of the lack of democracy in the EU is the practice of making small states that vote "no" in EU referenda vote again. Denmark had to vote twice on the Maastricht Treaty, while Ireland was forced to go two rounds on the Nice Treaty and the Lisbon Treaty. Big states are not immune from this kind of bullying treatment, either. When voters in France and the Netherlands rejected an EU constitution in 2005, European leaders tweaked about 4 percent of the original wording, renamed the document the Lisbon Treaty, and then rammed it through the French and Dutch parliaments despite the popular votes. When then Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou suggested a referendum on the Greek bailout last year, he was maneuvered out of office within days.

The EU does not believe in the tolerant British saying, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." Instead, its policy is, "When in Rome, do as the Germans do." Altogether, the outlook in Brussels and Berlin is like that of Napoleon in George Orwell's Animal Farm: "He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

The official German attitude is summed up by the regular fury from German politicians and the German media whenever an EU country calls for a referendum on initiatives from Brussels. When Ireland announced in February that it would hold a referendum on the EU's new fiscal treaty, Der Spiegel marveled, "The Irish Again!" while Süddeutsche Zeitung declared that if the Irish fail to realize that the fiscal pact "is in their national interest," Germany "will not be able to help them." Perhaps nothing captures Germany's elitist attitude better than an essay last summer in Der Spiegel by German political scientist Herfried Münkler titled, "Democratization Can't Save Europe: The Need for a Centralization of Power." Münkler argues that elections and referenda cannot be trusted in Europe because "the European population has never been and still is not a European people." EU elites, he adds, "need to improve -- and power has to be taken away from the periphery." Can you imagine a leading U.S. magazine printing such stuff about American elites and voters in certain states?

But this is exactly what is happening in Europe today. Power is being taken away from the periphery by centralizing elites. But these elites are failing. The EU's key policy -- monetary union -- has been a disaster. The simple fact is that you cannot have a successful monetary union without a political and fiscal union, with monetary transfers between rich and poor areas legitimized by democratic institutions. (In a currency union of disparate economies where changes of interest and exchange rates are forbidden to members, weaker economies have no means of competing with stronger ones if there is no legal arrangement for democratic agreement among members that stronger economies will bail out weaker ones when they get into debt.)

In the EU, however, there is no appetite for political or fiscal union or for larger monetary transfers -- particularly not in Germany. So the only solution to the productivity gap between the north and south in the eurozone, if it is to not break up after a series of defaults, is for the southern states to deflate themselves through austerity to the level of Chinese peasants in order to become competitive with Germany (according to the World Economic Forum, Germany is the world's sixth-most competitive country, while Greece ranks 90th). Greece, for example, will see a 25 percent drop in GDP by the end of next year. Already, more than 1 million Greeks out of a workforce of 5 million are unemployed, suicides are going up along with homicides, barter is becoming the means of exchange in rural areas, and public support for extreme left- and right-wing political parties is growing.

Unsurprisingly, some now accuse the Germans of once again being bent on domination, because they have called the Greeks dishonest, doubted their ability to run their own economy, suggested a takeover of the country by a European commissioner, proposed the postponement of parliamentary elections, and called for the creation of a separate national account for the payment of debts to Frankfurt before any money can be spent on Greece itself. The quarrel, in any case, will probably be settled by Greece's exit from the euro, which Germans would certainly now prefer.

In the meantime, similar problems are looming in Ireland, Portugal, and Spain. These have been assuaged temporarily by the policies of the new Italian head of the European Central Bank, Mario Draghi, whose long-term refinancing operation has given more than 1 trillion euros to European banks to encourage them to buy bonds from states that could yet go bankrupt. Berlin and Brussels are headed in another direction and are staking everything on the ratification of the new European fiscal compact, which has been signed by 25 out of the European Union's 27 member states and forces EU members to have their budgets approved by Brussels.

The problem, of course, is that the compact needs to be ratified. And, once again, democracy is rearing its ugly head. The probable winner of France's forthcoming presidential election, François Hollande, promises to tear up the treaty. The hard-luck Irish may well vote "no" in a referendum. No one knows who will be ruling Greece or Italy within a year. The Spanish have just unilaterally rejected the latest deficit-reduction target set for them by the EU. Even in Germany, it now turns out that Chancellor Angela Merkel will need a two-thirds majority of both houses of parliament -- in other words, support from opposition parties who will demand concessions -- to pass the fiscal pact. The whole initiative will likely be overtaken by events.

This is the European Union that Serbia is a candidate to enter. We wish the country well.

JOHN THYS/AFP/Getty Images

 

Alan Sked is a professor of international history and a former convener of European studies at the London School of Economics.

LISA JANE

4:14 AM ET

March 15, 2012

Why is EU failing?

By becoming the world’s first social innovation economy the EU can realise the vision of the Europe 2020 strategy – calling for smart, sustainable and inclusive growth – promote similar models in its neighbourhood (particularly in the wake of the Arab spring), and reinvigorate both itself and the world.

Too much to do now!!!!

Lisa
Does Gynexin Work

 

MARY WILBUR

9:55 AM ET

March 16, 2012

Keep Dreaming Lisa

The real question is will the EU exist in 2020? If it does, in what form? What exactly is "smart, sustainable, and inclusive growth"? It sounds to me like you have been listening to the platitudes that politicians like to palm off on gullible voters.

 

JEAN_MONNET

4:45 AM ET

March 15, 2012

European achievements

Although I am now used to the violent attacks the EU has been subject to in the last couple of months, I feel obligated to point out some of the mistakes and unsubstantiated arguments this article makes. Mr.Sked's quasi-arrogant tone bears testament to the legacy of American resentment towards the political achievements of the EU.

First and foremost, this article seems to ignore the most important achievement of the Union, which is to have made Europe a relatively peaceful continent since the end of WW2. American aid and protection has of course been instrumental in this process, but only the EU could manage to foster a common belief in a shared identity and destiny. Whatever economic woes it may now encounter, Europeans can at least rest assured that they will not have to live through a war like their parents had to.

Mr.Sked's assessment that all the EU's main policies have failed is also surprisingly naive and uninformed. The CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) has been incredibly successful in transforming the european agriculture into one of the most productive and innovating worldwide. The European Court for human rights has been a stalwart protector of democracy troughout the Union. The Erasmus university program has made it possible for hundreds of thousands of young Europeans to study abroad and share their knowledge. These are just a few of the many successful policies the EU has enforced.

Bridging the economic gap between the Union's nations has been more or less successful. But economic solidarity has at least considerably reduced inequalities. Ask a Greek or an Italian how they lived 50 years ago; they will tell you they are nonetheless better off now. Many Americans have been heralding the EU's economic downturn as the proof of its failure, but we should remember the US' economic outlook is still quite bleak. Moreover, it still suffers from an outrageous inequality gap which places it in the 74th position on the gini coefficient world ranking of the United Nations, between Cambodia and Turkmenistan...

The EU is strife with resentment and growing animosity between nations, but has it not always been so? One must not forget the Union is a very recent association. It is quite normal that it should encounter roadblocks and upsets. Establishing and fostering peaceful relationships between its members has been its ultimate goal, and it has so far been undeniably successful.

 

M2010

1:08 PM ET

March 16, 2012

Jean Monnet to answer your

Jean Monnet to answer your point one at a time:
a) You claim EU has helped prevent war in Europe by brining the nations of Europe together.I think you claim is vastly exaggerated! Although, the concept of EU emerged right after the World War, yet it took decades and decades for it to reach the level it has right now. So how was EU responsible for a peaceful Europe in the 1950's, 60's, 70's and 80's? Second, during teh 1990's EU failed miserably to prevent the conflict in East Europe and it was only after the intervention of the US and when peace was finally restored in the Balkans did EU come up with a coherent policy towards East Europe. Additionally, the world itself has witnessed a decline in wars and the peace we are witnessing in unprecedented in human history. This not particularly a European phenomenon!
Second, agricultural prosperity can be attributed to the subsidies that the EU has provided for its agricultural sector, very similar to that of the United States where agricultural sector has not only survived but also thrived because of government intervention. That is not something to be proud off.
Economic prosperity has nothing to do with being part of the EU and as we have seen has been nothing but artificial growth, mainly by access to cheap international credit. Growth rates have fallen dramatically in all the PIIGS countries and so has productivity and manufacturing. Besides, once again, the world has witnessed unprecedented prosperity, whether real or imagined, in the past two decades, which has nothing to do with being a part of the EU. Both India and China hav helped more hundreds of millions of people escape poverty. They did because of the global economic growth in the past decade. The southern countries could have become prosperous without having to join EU in these conditions.
Finally, you talk about European Court of Human Rights protecting the democratic rights of the people but you fail to provide examples how it has enabled to do it?
EU is nothing but a bureaucratic nightmare, which has no real solutions, which needn't listen to the people and is a power onto itself. If EU controls the destiny of the people of Europe and their countries, the question is my dear sir or ma'am who controls EU and its power hungry bureaucrats who somehow think they know what is best for you?

 

DOM WYNN

7:59 AM ET

March 15, 2012

Au contraire

1) " Europe a relatively peaceful continent since the end of WW2". This requires some kind of evidence - arguably the Balkans during the 90s demonstrated the inability of the EU to prevent war in the locale. And that war broke out the moment the cold war (which probably *did* deter a war since it would have gone nuclear) ended.
2) "The CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) has been incredibly successful in transforming the european agriculture into one of the most productive and innovating worldwide". That's a new one on me. Government subsidisation & management of agriculture has lead to any number of inequities and distortians, including but by no means limited to fraud, 3rd World poverty where cash crops cannot compete with the forced downward price of the internal market, anti competative dumping, and the preservation at huge tax payer expense of a sector that actually is, contrary to your statement, decades behind on a technological level with competitors in North and South America.
3) "The European Court for human rights has been a stalwart protector of democracy troughout the Union" or alternatively a body that has far exceeded it's original terms of reference, which has a backlog of over 24,000 cases, and which, despite the EU policy of subsidiarity, feels able to sit in judgement on governmental policies as varied as the ability to close schools (in breach apparently of ARTICLE 2
No person shall be denied the right to education... etc etc) or deny governments the ability to extradite known criminals back to the country of origin (because it would breach ARTICLE 8
Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life etc etc), since the said criminal had decided to organise a marriage after raping another girl.
4) "The Erasmus university program has made it possible for hundreds of thousands of young Europeans to study abroad and share their knowledge". I had no idea that Europeans had been prevented from studying abroad prior to the Erasmus programme.

In short for every upside there is a downside. It's the articles contention that the downsides are fairly significant. And I'd certainly agree.

 

BOBBYANDERSON

8:24 AM ET

March 15, 2012

Unknown Truths about the European Union

I agree with Professor Sked. The EU is anti-democratic – It is a dictatorship. Those countries queuing to join the European Union have not done their homework on European integration. A 19th century Irish philospher once said: “Democrcay, not despotism is the goal towards which civilization is tending. But democracy in its full development is one of the surest roads to despotism. First, the revolution; then, the plebiscite; then the despot.” is one of the surest to despotism. “ . The democractic deficit in EU says it all.
Here is the Unknown Truth about the European Union. A British public servant wrote about European Union: how it would develop, its character and future prospects even before the French Founding Fathers of the European Project (Jean Monnet and Robert Schuman) were born in 1888 and 1886. This Briton, who became the ‘Prince of Scotland Yard’, recorded that a political union of European nations would develop through a great European crisis, and this European confederacy would become the next major political feature in history after the restoration of the Jews in Palestine. Historical and public events have proved him right. The state of Israel was created in May 1948. Two years later, in May 1950, the European Union evolved from the ashes of the Second World War. The British also described the European Union “the vile confederacy of the latter days." He has been proved right. The EU produced a ponographic film to promote it. The European Commissin was forced to abandon a racists video designed European enlargment. The EU is corrupt. Its accounts have not been approved for 17 consecutive years. The Prince of Scotland Yard warned Britain would become a province of Europe and would not be saved in Europe. He has been proved right. About 70 percent of British laws originate from Brussels. I don’t need to list how the EU has become a burden on Britons. They pour £50million a day into the ‘broken cisterns’ in Brussels
Everything the Prince of Scotlnad Yard wrote about EU has come to pass. The fiscal compact treaty will pave the way for his word on Europe’s future to be fulfilled. Jean Monnet’s European Titanic was doomed even before its construction began. It is stemming towards an iceberg. No one can change the destiny of EU.
According to Jose Manuel Barroso, the European Union is an experiment in political and economic integration that has become successful. This is Barroso’s superficial understanding of European integration. The EU is not an experiment in any form that has become successful. The European Union was bound to develop to bring to pass what the Briton wrote about Europe and its future.
The EU is a ‘corpse’. It has no soul. Because, European politicians have ignored the crucial advice Robert Schuman and Chancellor Konrad Adenauer (two of the prominent founding fathers of EU) offered to them concerning the survival of the European Community. Britain and Ireland would commit national suicide if they remain in Jean Monnet’s doomed European Titanic. Had the passengers who perished on the Titanic had known the unsinkable ship would sink on its maiden voyage, would they have joined the doomed luxurious boat?

 

MARY WILBUR

9:47 AM ET

March 16, 2012

Nigel Farage Has It Right

The UK should get out of the EU as soon as possible. It sucks the blood of taxpayers and disenfranchises voters. The EU has become the instrument of German Imperialism. It has accomplished what Hitler failed to do.

 

BOBBYANDERSON

8:24 AM ET

March 15, 2012

Unknown Truths about the European Union

I agree with Professor Sked. The EU is anti-democratic – It is a dictatorship. Those countries queuing to join the European Union have not done their homework on European integration. A 19th century Irish philospher once said: “Democrcay, not despotism is the goal towards which civilization is tending. But democracy in its full development is one of the surest roads to despotism. First, the revolution; then, the plebiscite; then the despot.” is one of the surest to despotism. “ . The democractic deficit in EU says it all.
Here is the Unknown Truth about the European Union. A British public servant wrote about European Union: how it would develop, its character and future prospects even before the French Founding Fathers of the European Project (Jean Monnet and Robert Schuman) were born in 1888 and 1886. This Briton, who became the ‘Prince of Scotland Yard’, recorded that a political union of European nations would develop through a great European crisis, and this European confederacy would become the next major political feature in history after the restoration of the Jews in Palestine. Historical and public events have proved him right. The state of Israel was created in May 1948. Two years later, in May 1950, the European Union evolved from the ashes of the Second World War. The British also described the European Union “the vile confederacy of the latter days." He has been proved right. The EU produced a ponographic film to promote it. The European Commissin was forced to abandon a racists video designed European enlargment. The EU is corrupt. Its accounts have not been approved for 17 consecutive years. The Prince of Scotland Yard warned Britain would become a province of Europe and would not be saved in Europe. He has been proved right. About 70 percent of British laws originate from Brussels. I don’t need to list how the EU has become a burden on Britons. They pour £50million a day into the ‘broken cisterns’ in Brussels
Everything the Prince of Scotlnad Yard wrote about EU has come to pass. The fiscal compact treaty will pave the way for his word on Europe’s future to be fulfilled. Jean Monnet’s European Titanic was doomed even before its construction began. It is stemming towards an iceberg. No one can change the destiny of EU.
According to Jose Manuel Barroso, the European Union is an experiment in political and economic integration that has become successful. This is Barroso’s superficial understanding of European integration. The EU is not an experiment in any form that has become successful. The European Union was bound to develop to bring to pass what the Briton wrote about Europe and its future.
The EU is a ‘corpse’. It has no soul. Because, European politicians have ignored the crucial advice Robert Schuman and Chancellor Konrad Adenauer (two of the prominent founding fathers of EU) offered to them concerning the survival of the European Community. Britain and Ireland would commit national suicide if they remain in Jean Monnet’s doomed European Titanic. Had the passengers who perished on the Titanic had known the unsinkable ship would sink on its maiden voyage, would they have joined the doomed luxurious boat?

 

ERNESTPAYNE

8:44 AM ET

March 15, 2012

Union

The European Union is a work in progress. I suggest the writer view the historical context of other Unions. The United States started off in 1775 and did not settle the problem of union until 1865 a mere 90 years. Why would you not want to join the EU. A common currency, huge internal market, skilled work force, excellent education, etc.

 

AARONJA

2:36 PM ET

March 15, 2012

Indeed. The EU just needs

Indeed. The EU just needs time to evolve. It is still a relatively young grouping in its current form.
The peoples of Europe really need to start participating in the EU parliamentary elections. With a high turnout in the elections the parliament will gain more authority and balance of power would inevitably shift from the beauracracy to the parliament.

Personally I see many of the benefits of EU membership as I live in a Dutch town near the German border. Travelling and shopping in Osnabrück, Germany is just as easy for me as travelling to Amsterdam. And in the summer many Dutch travel south to France and Spain for vacation. A common currency and open borders has really transformed Europe for a lot of regular people.

 

ZORRO

12:42 PM ET

March 15, 2012

UK & Ireland

If just UK and Ireland could leave the EU then maybe something could be made of it. The UK has been working to destroy the EU from inside from day one.

 

MARY WILBUR

9:49 AM ET

March 16, 2012

The UK and Ireland

They would be smart to leave the EU.

 

GRANT

4:29 PM ET

March 15, 2012

Considering that German

Considering that German practices managed to avoid the worst of the recession while Greek and Italian practices managed to completely ruin their systems I'd say the Germans are probably justified in their attitude.

After that I have to note that many of the writer's accusations and facts could have just as easily been said about the United States two hundred years ago. During the War of 1812 some states tried to negotiate separate peace with the U.K.

 

FRIV IGRE

6:28 PM ET

March 15, 2012

Remember how proud Google was

Remember how proud Google was when it unified all of its services under a single privacy policy? Well, Big G's excitement was tempered when the EU asked it to hold off on the policy's implementation while it investigated the changes. And its enthusiasm is likely all but extinguished now that EU Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding has declared the policy to be in breach of European law. She found fault with the fact that the EU wasn't consulted in the policy's formation, the policy doesn't meet transparency requirements, and it allows Google to give people's private data to third parties. No word on what Europa's governing body will do with such findings in hand, but it seems certain that the crew in Mountain View's got some policy revisions to make. Guess simplifying those privacy policies wasn't so simple, was it?

 

TRONCOSVK

4:28 AM ET

March 16, 2012

Well, the quality of this article...

Honestly, I havent read such a simplistic and "error-prone" article in a while.

First of all, the author "is a professor of international history and a former convener of European studies at the London School of Economics." BUT can not tell European Council form Council of European Union, which takes part in the co-decision procedure with Parliament and is in a way elected, because it´s the ministers of national governments the countries´ citizens elected in their national parliamentary elections.

Concerning the author´s stated "German occupying and dictating Greece what to do", the author could have searched for more statistics concerning Greek people´s view on euro. Greeks DO want to stay in the eurozone, they want to keep the euro no matter what, so suddenly they dont seem to mind the "German dictate" or European institutions dictate or whatever you would want to call it that much.

I could go on and on, this article offers so many views and statements cut out of the context of the issues, states most of the time just one side of the story.

The quality is poor and I would not recommend anyone to cite anything from this article since its really not accurate..

 

FORLORNEHOPE

6:08 AM ET

March 16, 2012

OMG

The Daily Telegraph comments column arrives on "Foreign Policy"; wicked!

 

FREEDOMOFOPINION

7:05 AM ET

March 16, 2012

The answer to

"why would anyone want to join the EU" is in my opinion pretty simple:
a) to receive farm- and other subsidies
b) to export to EU countries without being subjected to customs duty
c) to attract industries from the more costlier EU countries like Germany, France, the UK, Sweden AND get fat subsidies from Brussels to lure those companies beyond their present borders. Slovakia and Romania are a case in point.
That in a nutshell is the main motivation in Serbia, Croatia and others and WAS the main motivation for Greece to seek membership. It is also the motivation - correction "was" - the thinking behind Turkey starting a membership admission process. Political union or subjecting oneself to onerous dictates from Brussels is not the driving force whatever our politicians like to tell us.

 

MARY WILBUR

9:37 AM ET

March 16, 2012

Why Would Anyone Want to Join the EU?

To receive welfare from stupid German voters/taxpayers.

 

ALTE

8:15 PM ET

March 17, 2012

The Roach Motel

The EU is a roach motel: once in you can't get out.! it is a paradise for multi-culti soc-dems and a goulag for the real people who live in. An extremely high cost of living, thanks to an overvalued currency, a cultural equalization from the bottom up thanks to droves of African and Maghreb immigrants, Charles Martel who defeated the Saracens in Poitier in 732 must be tossing in his grave.

 

KEVEN RAX

3:19 AM ET

April 12, 2012

Want to Join the EU

I know that, Absolutement Mes Cher Damen und Herren. Who in their right minds would want to join the EU-Topian Marxist Wet Dream Factory of Muppetised Commie Commizzars. They still have dreams of grandeur in persuading more States to join this bankrupt Eurozone idiocy. There are some in the EU-SSR Land who possibly also want to ‘persuade’ those Arab States around the Mediterranean to European as well as ‘Associate Members’ – what utter idiocy.