Next Year in Tripoli

Will my people -- the Jews of Libya -- ever be able to go home? 

BY DAVID GERBI | MARCH 22, 2012

I am a Jew from Libya.

Although my family and I were forced to flee Libya for Rome after the 1967 war between Israel and its Arab neighbors, I still consider myself to be a proud Jew, a proud Libyan, and a proud Italian. I have been back four times since 1967, but have been forced to leave each time. Although much time has passed, I still feel the freshness of Tripoli's air and its special light: hot, but not blinding. I want to feel that light again -- but in a stable Libya, a country that affirms freedom, justice, and the rule of law, protects freedom of religion for all its people, and honors its Jewish heritage.

Libya's revolution represents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to bring back the Jewish community into my homeland's social fabric. As I discovered firsthand, however, when a mob prevented my efforts to rebuild Tripoli's synagogue by shouting anti-Semitic slogans, the hateful attitudes that Muammar al-Qaddafi was only too happy to encourage will not disappear overnight. In this post-Qaddafi era, I hope that Libya's new leaders will embrace needed change and that stories like mine will help make that happen.

The history of Libya's Jews stretches back to the third century B.C., through the 1492 Jewish expulsion from Spain, and up to the 20th century. My community saw Romans, Ottomans, and Italians come and go. For hundreds of years, we coexisted peacefully with Libyan Muslims, despite the tensions wrought by political upheaval. As recently as 1931, Libya's Jewish community of about 24,500 people represented 4 percent of the country's population. (By comparison, the U.S. Jewish community, the largest in the Diaspora today, is only 2 percent of the U.S. population.)

But the wars of the 20th century decimated our community. The trouble began in 1938, when a Nazi-inspired racial law against Jews led to heightened persecution, and hundreds of Libyan Jews were killed in riots during that period. By 1949, many Jews had been forced to leave after Libyans rioted again in reaction to the establishment of Israel. By 1969, with Qaddafi in power, only about 100 Jews remained. At that time, Qaddafi confiscated the assets and possessions of all Libyan Jews, including those who had left in 1967 and earlier, and declared that Jews could not return or renew their passports.

My family built a new life in Rome, but I never forgot where I came from nor abandoned my dream to return. In 2002, I was the first Jew to be given permission to return to visit my aunt, Rina Debach. Upon finally being allowed to leave in 2003, she joined our family in Rome, where she died 40 days later. She was the last Jew to leave Libya, and her departure marked the end of more than two millennia of continuous Jewish presence there. While not one Jew lives in Libya today, the original Diaspora population of 38,000 has grown to about 200,000 people who reside largely in Israel and Italy.

In the years since, I have made several trips to Libya as part of reconstruction and reconciliation efforts on behalf of the Libyan Jewish community, acting as a representative for the World Organization of Libyan Jews (WOLJ). In 2007, I was invited back by the Libyan government because of my support for normalized Libyan-U.S. relations. After volunteering at the Benghazi Psychiatric Hospital, I began trying to restore Tripoli's Dar Bishi Synagogue, which dates from the late 1920s but has deteriorated badly over time. The Qaddafi regime ultimately made my work impossible: I was abruptly detained, interrogated, and, without any reason or explanation, dispossessed of all my belongings and deported.

I met Qaddafi when he visited Rome in June 2009 and invited the Libyan Jewish community to meet with him on Shabbat, in a large tent he had erected in a city park. Scheduling the meeting for that day signaled to us that his goal was mostly focused on public relations. While most members of the community could not attend because it was the Sabbath, I was there in my traditional Libyan robe with a Jewish star at my neck.

KARIM SAHIB/Getty Images

 

David Gerbi is a psychotherapist in private practice in Rome and the executive director of the World Organization of Libyan Jews. He can be reached at davidgerbi26@mac.com.

THE GLOBALIZER

5:53 PM ET

March 22, 2012

In short, no.

Libyan Jews are identified with Israel.
Israel is perceived to be unfairly/unjustly oppressing Muslims.
Libya is full of Muslims.

If Libyan Jews want to return to Libya, they should pressure Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians and ultimately normalize relations with the rest of the Arab (mostly Muslim) world. Until then, aspirational language will be ground into the mud by Israeli realities.

 

RES PUBLIC

8:37 PM ET

March 22, 2012

Nonsense

In your narrative, they're essentially taken hostage. You're just affirming the standing notions, but that's hardly the way forward. It's a bit like saying black slaves first have to prove themselves useful, before massa can give them freedom.

They could just foster dialogue and explain that they don't have anything to do with Israeli politics. Or politics in general.

Granted, I'm not saying this understanding with general Libyan populace is going to come about overnight, and granted, better Palestinian-Israeli relations would help, but tying their return entirely to Israel doing what Palestinians want would be just wrong on numerous levels. One of which is a practical one - the Palestinians and Israel are never going to have a level of cohabitation that would satisfy the Arabs entirely.

 

KINGFELIX

1:47 AM ET

March 23, 2012

On a purely intellectual level

What makes you consider that 'debate' can consist of dismissing the totality of the previous poster's comment as 'nonsense'. What is constructive about that?

While you may have some compelling argument, you also have a total lack of the civility which a discussion of the issues requires.

Given that you are not prepared to entertain viewpoints that do not agree with your own, honestly, why should anybody bother to read what you wrote?

 

DMOR20

7:35 AM ET

March 23, 2012

really?

1. Wouldn't the existence Jewish communities not under the threat of genocide in these countries help both sides find common ground on Israel? How much incentive is there for peace when Arab countries, in total disrespect to their own heritage, never miss an opportunity to prove they want to kill Jews and then talk about the "violence of the bulldozers" when Israel makes a much less murderous, but still morally repugnant, move in a similar vein? Of course, no Arab state can make the argument they're responding to an existential threat . . . there's absolutely no equivalency - we just expect (Arabs cynically and everyone else because it's true) Israel to be better than that.

2. Is it irony or something else when you dismiss someone's opinion because you feel it's dismissive of someone else's? (hint, hint)

 

JGARBUZ

12:55 PM ET

March 23, 2012

If a JEw wants to emigrate from Israel to Libya, let him

do so. It does not obligate ISrael to let Arabs immigrate to ISrael. The Arabs have 21 Arab countries of their own, and 5.5 million Arabs occupy Jewish land west of the Jordan river as is. How many Jews live in Arab countries today, a handful? 5.5 million ARabs are living on Jewish land and they should really think about returning to their own true homelands which we Jews do not claim as ours.

 

JGARBUZ

1:07 PM ET

March 23, 2012

There is no "common ground." Israel is JEWISH LAND!

We don't claim any land in the 21 Arab countries from which 1 million Jews were expelled, and the Arabs should claim no Jewish land in Israel! That is the ONLY "common ground." THey have lots of ground;we JEws have very little! We have to live as a despised minority in other people's countries because our own country is still occupied by 5.5 million Arabs.

The "common ground" would be if they go where they belong, and Jews go where Jews belong - in Israel.

 

THE GLOBALIZER

3:46 PM ET

March 23, 2012

Huh?

I don't quite understand these responses. If Jews want to return to Libya in peace and without fear of harm, they'll need Israel to resolve the Palestinian conflict. It's cute and all to continue pressing the Israeli case, but it won't change the dynamics on the ground for Arab Jews returning to their home countries. (In other words, Fortress Israel doesn't help other Jewish claims in the region.)

There's a lot of blame to go around, but Israeli has lost a lot of leverage in light of the Arab Spring, as they don't have strongmen in neighboring countries successfully suppressing anti-Israeli sentiment. The sooner they recognize that, the sooner they reach peace and normalized relationships.

 

BASE

10:44 PM ET

March 23, 2012

Not Nonsense

While that might sound good in practice, the reality is that, in the Arab world, the issue of Israel-Palestine is enormously toxic. To call that 'nonsense' is just ... well ... nonsense.

I really do sympathize with the author. The idea that any people are restricted from living anywhere just because of the religion they choose to practice is a 100% abhorrant idea.

Yet this is exactly what is happening in Israel today. Palestinians are being systematically discriminated against. To deny it is to make yourself a mockery on the level of Aaron David Miller (see his last article in FP) or Steve Rosen, or even Bibi himself. Even the UN is finally sick of this behavior and starting to push the issue. Considering that the entire Muslim world sees Israel as a nation that is killing off Palestinians (even if you dont want to believe or admit it) makes this sort of reaction elementary.

You are much better off being even a little realistic and calling a spade a spade. Otherwise you just look like an apologist for Israel and lose all credibility.

 

BASE

10:50 PM ET

March 23, 2012

Right

You just claim the land in which several million Palestinians were ethnically cleansed and still are to this day.

I agree with another of the commentators: if Israel is the 'only' Jewish homeland, than how can this author make claim to the idea that he should be allowed home to Libya?

 

SPOOD

10:32 AM ET

March 25, 2012

A perfect example of why there is no reasonable discussion

Because no matter what position Jews in that country will be in, they will be discriminated against and people will use unrelated issues with Israel and Palestine as the excuse. The main worry is that Islamicism tends to run rampant in a power vacuum after rabidly secularist leaders depart.

What relation do Libyan Jews have to the issues in the West Bank? None really, besides the same religion.

Virtually all the concern for Palestinians by outsiders tends to be of the phony kind. Nobody wants to lift a finger to shore up a Palestinian economy or try to reform their leadership to something less autocratic and corrupt. Maybe people who could be trusted internationally.

As long as they oppose Israel, they get international support. Its why we still have idiots here rooting for people in Gaza, despite taking power in a wave of fratricidal violence and instituting a Taliban like reign of terror. Either they don't know who they are supporting or just don't care because of the bigger picture of their agenda.

 

MOHAMEDABED

12:34 AM ET

March 26, 2012

Its not hard to undestand unless you are a moron

Israel is the only Jewish homeland....however, Jews are also a religious group as well as an ethnic, cultural, and racial group. There is no other country with a majority Jewish population other than Israel. However, Judaism is also a religion. That means Jews can be of many nationalities.

Saudi Arabia is a muslim country by nationality and home/nation of the Saudis. However, you can have a Saudi-American.

 

STALINGRAD

9:14 AM ET

March 26, 2012

If an arab wants to emigrate

If an arab wants to emigrate from Libya to Israel...should we let him too?

 

MOHAMEDABED

10:00 AM ET

March 26, 2012

You are an idiot

If an Arab Jew wants to move from Libya to Israel...sure we should let him.

However Arab muslim Libyans have their own "homeland" both in Libya (being defined as a Muslim state by almost all rebel groups in power) and 22 other Arab Muslim states (Such as Saudi Arabia - which prevents the practice of any religion other than Islam).

 

STALINGRAD

1:49 PM ET

March 26, 2012

However Arab muslim Libyans

However Arab muslim Libyans have their own "homeland" both in Libya (being defined as a Muslim state by almost all rebel groups in power) and 22 other Arab Muslim states (Such as Saudi Arabia - which prevents the practice of any religion other than Islam).

so you are capable of making a distinction between Italians and French even though they are both white Christians but you are not able to make any distinctions between muslim Arabs?
Libyans have their homeland in 22 arab states you say plus Libya....so basically you are saying that Tunisians and Saudis have the same culture, ethnicity, etc, etc...?

congrats....you even dumber than i though :)

 

STALINGRAD

4:01 PM ET

March 26, 2012

really?

"Wouldn't the existence Jewish communities not under the threat of genocide in these countries help both sides find common ground on Israel? "

there is plenty of jews that live in arab countrys and contrary to what you claim they don't live under the threat of genocide....take Tunisia for instance, jews live there peacefully for hundreds of years and never hid the fact they are jews, my dads boss was jewish and he was a good man, he is still in Tunisia by the way and he would never leave it.

"How much incentive is there for peace when Arab countries, in total disrespect to their own heritage, never miss an opportunity to prove they want to kill Jews"

the ones you are talking about are the extrimists and they represent only a small percentage of the arab population, just like there is some jews who would not hesitate arming them selves and shoot as many arabs as they can...... there is morons everywhere unfortunately but not all arabs are terrorists, believeit or not some of them are educated and peacefull even though they oppose Israel policies.

"and then talk about the "violence of the bulldozers" when Israel makes a much less murderous, but still morally repugnant, move in a similar vein?"

come on man how can you be so biased...numbers never lie, over 3000 died in Palestine in the last bombing, schools, hospital and UN headquarters where bombed, over 1000 women and kids dead, how many died in Israel in that period from home made rockets? 40? so how can you claim that Israel is much less murderous?

it is almost sickening to hear over and over again that Israel is somehow a victim in all this, especially considering that you are doing the bulldozing and you are confiscating illegal land and you are building settlements and you are doing the bombing ( with illegal phosphorus missiles i might add)

so please enough of the victim talk and a little more peace talk instead ;)

 

MOHAMEDABED

5:25 PM ET

March 26, 2012

@stanlingrad

damn dude, you are plenty stupid.

You just said plenty of Jews live in Arab countries......yeah back in 1930. Tunisia has 1,000 Jews! Wow what a large number! The Arab world once had almost 1 million Jews....now there are none in all but 2-3 arab countries.

Stalingrad you just advance bigotry. You have no conception of what ethnicity, race, or religion is. "white" is not a race, contrary to your belief. Neither is "Black."

 

MOHAMEDABED

5:26 PM ET

March 26, 2012

 

REHABPROGRAMS

3:00 AM ET

April 1, 2012

addiction treatment center

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MICHAELGERALDPDEALINO

8:54 PM ET

March 22, 2012

Hope

The new Libya should respect all religions.

 

FREETHINKER12

9:47 AM ET

March 23, 2012

jews can live in tripoli when

jews can live in tripoli when arabs can live in isreali settlements

 

MOHAMEDABED

12:38 AM ET

March 26, 2012

That has nothing to do with it you idiot

The man was a libyan citizen who was denied his rights as a citizen because he is Jewish. Arabs have all their own nationalities....including Palestinian as a nationality. Why should they live in another nation (Israel)? You are an idiot spouting stupid nonsense. If you care so much about the Arabs go live with them. Or, be a fat armchair activist as you are.

 

STALINGRAD

1:54 PM ET

March 26, 2012

of course Freethinker12 is

of course Freethinker12 is stupid ...how dare he jeopardize the purity of mighty Israel....

Hamma, you're just another pathetic donkey.

 

MOHAMEDABED

5:28 PM ET

March 26, 2012

haha, he is an idiot because he posts

garbage with no intellectual merit. Just like you.

Lets pose this another way. Since you agree with the cleansing of Jews from Libya....because Israel is their country...then Arabs can be cleansed from Palestine and go to Arabia.

 

JGARBUZ

12:52 PM ET

March 23, 2012

Israel is the ONLY Jewish homeland, and the ARabs can

have my mother's home in Poland if they still need a place to live outside of their 21 Arab countries! While Muslims claim the WHOLE PLANET as righitfully theirs, Jews claim no other land other than the Land of Israel. Yes, Jews lived in many places for 2500 years, but there is only one Jewish state, not like 56 Muslim states! WE are not allowed by our tribal religion to claim anyone else's homeland as our own, as that would be stealing someone else's homeland. We are not Arabs, or British, or Spaniards, or Scots_irish, etc. We do not conquer other people lands and claim them as our own. WE are happy to be allowed to live in countries while our own homeland remains occupied by 5.5 million Arabs still living on Jewish soil west of the JOrdan river.

If 5.5 million Arabs still living on Jewish land were to "return" to their own Arab lands, then Jews would have the ability to return to our true homeland. Allas, the Arabs are relentless in their false claims that ISrael is Arab land! They are backed by 56 Muslim countries in the UN, so the sole Jewish state is overwhelmingly outnumbered. But we Jews will not relinquish our only homeland any more than the Apaches would relinquish theirs, or the Irish would relinquish theirs.

 

STALINGRAD

3:23 PM ET

March 23, 2012

JGARBUZ une chance que le ridicule ne tue pas...

your the kind of moron who gives Jews a bad name.

Muslims claim the WHOLE PLANET as righitfully theirs? ...what kind of verbal diarrhea is that?

 

BASE

10:47 PM ET

March 23, 2012

Here's a thought

Why don't you go back to Poland and let the Palestinians live in Palestine? This seems like a totally reasonable proposition.

 

MOHAMEDABED

12:31 AM ET

March 26, 2012

how about the Palestinian "Arabs"

go back to Arabia....along with the Arabs in Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, and Morocco. I am sure the Kurds, Assyrians, Copts, and Berbers would be happy about that prospect.

 

ANDOR_1

1:39 PM ET

March 23, 2012

Contradiction

You claim that Jews only claim Israel, while the author is talking about his birthright to live in Libya. If Jews, instead of supporting opposition, worked with Gaddaffy, they would have had their synagogue by now. By helping the Muslim Brotherhood they signed their own figurative "death warrant".
The Jews of the United States give lip service to their "homeland", but most of them haven't seen the wailing wall or even Ben Gurion airport.
Many Russian Jews have returned to Russia since the opportunities are better there.
The Wondering Jew is a name given to the Jewish population disseminated all across the globe.

 

STALINGRAD

3:46 PM ET

March 23, 2012

The "common ground" would be

The "common ground" would be if they go where they belong, and Jews go where Jews belong - in Israel.

And where do they belong ? Tunisia, Algeria, morocco, Egypt....? Please enlighten us with your infinite wisdom...

 

STALINGRAD

4:00 PM ET

March 23, 2012

I wonder what mister David

I wonder what mister David Gerbi thinks about the comment made by JGARBUZ ...Israel is the ONLY Jewish homeland...

 

MOHAMEDABED

12:42 AM ET

March 26, 2012

let me guess stalingrad...

in the battle of stalingrad reenactments you play the nazi. LOL.

 

STALINGRAD

9:03 AM ET

March 26, 2012

@ MOHAMEDABED

I don't agree with Israel so I MUST be a nazi .....you got to this conclusion all by yourself ?

calling you idiot would be a euphemism :)

 

MOHAMEDABED

10:03 AM ET

March 26, 2012

@stalingrad

you are a nazi because you make anti-Jewish comments.

You are an idiot because you make comments showing you have no intellectual capacity for what you are trying to discuss. You don't understand basic conceptions of nationality, religion, race, and culture.

So, how is your nazi reenactments at stalingrad...herr General Paulus?

 

STALINGRAD

1:25 PM ET

March 26, 2012

and what are these anti

and what are these anti jewish comments genius?

just give me one example.....oh wait ...i didn't make any....how classical...and ignorent i might add.

you don't even know me....but just the fact that i oppose the settlements like millions of others (jews and non jews) is enough to call me a Nazi?

do you even realize how stupid you sound?

how ironic to be called nazi by a moron who kills women and children and robs them of their houses and possessions on a daily basis.

 

STALINGRAD

2:06 PM ET

March 26, 2012

you have no intellectual

you have no intellectual capacity for what you are trying to discuss. You don't understand basic conceptions of nationality, religion, race, and culture.

said the guy who is calling everybody who doesn't agree with him "IDIOT" and doesn't make any cultural distinction between muslims of diffrent countries.

man it's amazing that you learned to read....now if you can only use that skill to broaden your horizons and pull your head out of you A** we just might build a better world to live in.

 

MOHAMEDABED

5:35 PM ET

March 26, 2012

@stalingrad, you laughable child

PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, who told the Dutch newspaper Trouw in March 1977 that "[t]he Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."

yes you are a hypocritical idiot. You believe in the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Libya....yet decry supposed house demolitions of poor terrorist Palestinian families. Waaaa......did the big bad IDF knock down ur wittle housey wousey? I guess stop encouraging your children to blow themselves up. Seriously what sick bastards encourage suicide bombings on buses..and honor them bombers with posters and streets named after them.....

 

THE_OBSERVER

8:16 PM ET

March 23, 2012

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

Next year in Jerusalem for all the Palestinians expelled from their homes and land holdings from Israel proper, East Jerusalem and parts of the West Bank by the Israeli military and Jewish settlers.

 

MOHAMEDABED

12:26 AM ET

March 26, 2012

LOL the "expelled" are all dead or geriatrics

the rest are fake refugees. They are Arabs living in Arab countries.

 

THE_OBSERVER

4:35 AM ET

March 26, 2012

One State Solution

@Mohamedabed
More propaganda from a wealy zionist like yourself. And you're using a Muslim sounding monicke as a poor imitation of the false flag operations that the mossad carry out???
There are millions of Palestinians that are in refugee camps in the Lebanon and Jordan that were expelled from Israel proper. They should add a few million to the population of Israel and round out the ethnic and religious balance. A one state solution that included them would solve a lot of problems such as the Palestinians getting equal treatment before the law, land rights, freedom to travel, and most importantly to vote in Israeli elections, etc

 

STALINGRAD

9:29 AM ET

March 26, 2012

@ idiot :)

the rest are fake refugees. They are Arabs living in Arab countries.

so by that logic, Italians should have the right to relocate to France...after all they are all white christians anyway.....

oh and why not move ukrainians to Russia they all slavic orthodox.

 

MOHAMEDABED

10:07 AM ET

March 26, 2012

haha, you both are just idiots

The Palestinians are Arabs and Muslims....who before Britian and France came along after WWI, were considered "Southern Syrians." Now, they somehow have their own ethnic identity....even though they are from the same tribes as most of the people east of the Jordan, speak the same language, and have the same religion.

Not to mention that Jordan was once part of the Palestine Mandate...ie part of Palestine. And that Jordan is 75% Palestinian by population.........

Your analogy to Italians and French is ridiculous. Different languages, different culture, different ethnicities, and even different race (whites just like blacks come from different racial groups....white or black is not a "race" but a convenient term used by governments for categorization....unless of course you think the black dinkas are the same as the black zulu.)

 

STALINGRAD

11:10 AM ET

March 26, 2012

@ Hamma (Mohammed with affection :))

oh I see...so u are capable of differentiating between Russians and Ukrainians even though they have the same origin, same religion, almost same language.... but when it comes to Palestinians, they don't exist, they are just Jordanians and south Syrians?

You can call them what you want Hamma and I know that you are tempted to call them cockroaches....or subspecies because you are so superior...

the facts still remain ...Israel bulldozed their houses and confiscated their lands and farms and the UN still to this day doesn't recognize the stolen land as being part of Israel...Israel doesn't give a flying F*** about what the international community thinks and keeps building settlements on illegally confiscated land.....

So go ahead call me Nazi now.... all Jews that are opposed to the settlements must be Nazis too i guess....

 

MOHAMEDABED

5:31 PM ET

March 26, 2012

haha, nice foaming at the mouth rant

check yourself for rabies! Hey dont hate on me for quoting Arab sources.

Palestinian" Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi's utterance during the 1937 Peel Commission partition hearings -- to wit, "[t]here is no such country as Palestine! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented ... Our country was for centuries part of Syria!"

Ahmed Shuqeiri (later chairman of the PLO) told the U.N. Security Council much more pithily that "[i]t is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, who told the Dutch newspaper Trouw in March 1977 that "[t]he Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."

 

IAN GRAY

9:42 AM ET

March 25, 2012

IN the US

Most Jewish organizations and AIPAC have chosen to actively promote a war between the "West" and "Islam", which means a war with 1.5 billion people.
Of course, this is completely against the interests of America since a) we will never win a war against 1.5 billion people b) we can't afford a war against 1.5 billion people and c) we actually desperately need to compete with Europe and China to export to those 1.5 billion people.
As long as the fascist Zionist organizations pursue this strategy of unending wars to maintain their superiority in the ME, my guess is they will never live in peace anywhere since at some point in the US, people will realize who the real promotor of these unending wars are and who it is that protects the massive fraud on Wall Street

 

MOHAMEDABED

12:29 AM ET

March 26, 2012

you're a fascist idiot Ian Gray

bla bla bla where is your tin foil hat Ian? Yes War between the west and Islam was caused by AIPAC....beacuse Israel really cared that the US rescued Kuwait in 1991, which then set into force bin Laden's wrath (for US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War) and led to 9/11. And because AIPAC had so much to do with the Hindu Muslim conflict in India....and the Thai Bhuddist / Muslim conflict in Southern Thailand....or the Sudanese Muslim vs Christian and animist conflict that went on for decades.

 

SPOOD

10:52 AM ET

March 26, 2012

For a little perspective..

Many Libyan's don't even want to grant equality and liberty to fellow Muslim Tauregs and there are about 700,000 of them.

Its highly improbable they would show any form of consideration to a miniscule religious/ethnic group, which has been reviled in predominately Muslim nations.

 

MITCHELLNESS

12:31 PM ET

March 29, 2012

Wow

Obviously a touchy subject for a lot of people. And what does it take to get your certification in insanity? Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.