In the first video below, Cloonan explains that there’s more than one way to make a terrorist cry:

But what about the worst of the worst? And what about a ticking time bomb? If a terrorist has information that could save innocent lives, isn’t it time to take the gloves off?

Watch Cloonan’s response:

Jack Cloonan spent 25 years as an FBI special agent and interrogated members of al Qaeda during the late 1990s. He is now president of Clayton Consultants, a global risk and crisis management company.