FP: Iraq,
which used to be ruled by a Sunni ruler, is now being governed by Shiites. What
does that mean in the context of Islamic history?
BL: I think it
means a great deal. But what is important in Iraq is not that it’s being ruled by
the Shiites, but that it’s being ruled by a democracy, by a free, elected
government that faces a free opposition. It proves what is often disputed, that
the development of democratic institutions in a Muslim Arab country is
possible. A lot of people say, “No, it’s impossible. It can’t work. They can’t
do it.” Well, it’s difficult, but it’s not impossible, and I think Iraq proves
that. What is happening in Iraq
I find profoundly encouraging. Of course, it is the ripple effect from Iraq that
is causing alarm among all the tyrants that rule these countries [in the
region]. If it works in Iraq,
it could work elsewhere, and this is very disturbing [for tyrants].
FP: As someone
who has spent so much time studying the Ottoman Empire,
the history of Islam, and the region, is the future of Islam something that has
a deep meaning to you personally? Where do you see the Muslim world headed in
the next decade?
BL: I’m not a religious person. But I find things that are good and encouraging. Islam over
the last 14 centuries has brought dignity and meaning to millions of drab and
impoverished lives. It has created a great civilization that has gone through several different phases in several
different countries. It is now going through a major crisis, and it could go
either way. It could descend into a fanatical tyranny, which would be
devastating for Muslims and a threat to the rest of the world. Or they may
succeed in developing their own brand of democracy. When we talk about the
possibility of democracy in the Islamic world, it doesn’t have to be our kind.
Our kind results from our own history and institutions. It’s not a universal
model. They can, and I think will, develop their own brand of democracy, by
which I mean limited, civilized, responsible government. And there are signs of
that.
Bernard Lewis is
professor emeritus at Princeton University and the author of dozens of books, most recently
Islam: The Religion and the People (Upper Saddle
River: Wharton School
Publishing, 2008), coauthored with
Buntzie Ellis Churchill.