FP: How do
you react to donors when they tell you that they can't give aid to Zimbabwe
yet, until more democratic progress is made?
MT: My
beef with all the international community and diplomats is that, look, those of
us who are pushing the democratic reform agenda should be supported so that we can sustain this experiment.
I was saying to somebody this morning that it would
appear that by raising the bar every time there is progress -- or every time
there is an attempt [by the international community] to ignore the progress that
has taken place because of one or two [outstanding] issues [unresolved in the
coalitional government], you are invariably becoming a part of the [internal
government] negotiations. And for the negotiating parties who are actually on
the field, who are negotiating with ZANU-PF, you actually go to the extent of
undermining the influence that we are trying to build among those skeptics [of international aid] inside the country.
FP: You've
announced a new 100-day economic recovery plan. Can you tell us some of the
things that will be happening as part of that plan?
MT: I'm
sure that you know that we've just completed the first three months of this
inclusive government, and the first phase was to try and consolidate the
government, which I believe has now been achieved.
Now we go to the second phase in the next three
months. It's a short-term program to try to intervene in various areas of our
economy. And there are really five clusters: economic, social, infrastructure,
rights, and security. We have done [this division] in order to build the
priority programs in each ministry with the key results areas in target -- the
milestones. So I would say that the next 100 days, the key priorities are to
set the policy framework in various ministries; to ensure that we are able to
rehabilitate some of the dilapidated infrastructure; and to ensure that the
education and health delivery systems are on their feet. But above all, we need
to mobilize the resources so that we can support these programs. So the 100-day
plan is a test of the synergies within ministries -- across ministries -- to
ensure that the whole government is working as a cohesive team.
FP: Where
does land reform fit into this plan?
MT: In the
100 days, what we would expect from the Ministry of Land is first and foremost
to do an assessment -- a country-wide assessment on the so-called land invasions [that occurred under Mugabe's previous government]
-- if there are still any. The second part is to set up a land audit in terms of
the global political agreement, a land audit that is meant to reveal whether the
independent land commission is the basis to do proper land reform. We've got a
plan on the land, and I think this is the only way that this issue will be
finalized.
FP: In
spite of your own resolve, is it difficult to motivate other members of the MDC
in light of so many challenges?
MT: We
have to keep focused. We know that from time to time, some of the old habits of
violence will remain. But we don't lose focus on the need to create a
democratic playing field so that when the new constitutional dispensation is
created -- we can hold free and fair elections down the line. That's still the
objective.
In other words, ours is the transformative challenge:
to transform old habits and introduce a new governance culture, and you know
it's difficult in a coalition government. But we know that within the
transitional phase, it is important to unlock some of these mindsets that have
taken us this far down. So how do I motivate our people? Our people know that
we have not yet arrived as a full democratic Zimbabwe. But we are on the
journey.
Morgan Tsvangirai is prime
minister of Zimbabwe.